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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Mon, Sep. 3rd, 2007 03:31 pm
SPN Fic: Code of the Boys (Gen, R, Pre-Series)


I've been beating my head against the same angsty fic until I've got a literal dent in my virtual creative skull, so thought it was time to take a break. Here's something I wrote for found_fic_spn, but it was actually inspired by the awesome ficwriter1966 with her Sammy and John thinky thinkings in Rock, Paper, Scissors. Put me of a mind to have this story in head when the kimonkey7's very cool prompt rolled around. Just to be filed under "odd things you never really thought would happen," this one touched back on the only story I've ever written about Sam leaving for Stanford. It's a nearly drabblish little ficlet (300 odd words) called When You Go, and some of the flashback dialog is directly lifted from that exchange.

Title: Code of the Boys
Author: Dodger Winslow
Genre: Gen, Pre-Series
Word Count: 4,500
Challenge: #16 for found_fic_spn (the photo prompt is below, also)
Rating: R for language
Spoilers: None.
Timeline Note: Set shortly after Sam leaves for Stanford
Disclaimer: I don't own the boys, I'm just stalking them for a while.

Summary: John ran his thumb across smudged letters written in a child’s hand, read the second point in Code of the Boys: "Like video games." That was vintage Sammy. Dean didn’t need to make lists of the things he liked, the things he hated. He just did it. Liked them. Hated them. But Sammy had to quantify everything. He made a list once of everything John had ever done that made him a bad father. It was a testament to Dean’s clandestine skills that the list showed up in a trash can, torn into small pieces, rather than on his pillow where it had no doubt originally been left.

Code of the Boys


Code of the Boys

He found it in a book, being used as a bookmark. Even if he hadn’t recognized the handwriting, with its very specific cursive elements and large, curly-Qed "C", he would have known who wrote it simply because Dean would never consider "hating girls" to be part of any code except the code of "you’re a fag," an epitaph he favored when he was ten.

So this was Sam. Pure Sam. Typical Sam. If he wanted to learn something, he wrote it down, kept it in a pocket so he could pull it out and study it whenever he had a spare moment. If he wanted to figure something out, he made a list. Either way, once he had the subject down, his crib notes usually ended up in a book somewhere, or caught in a dryer filter, washed to shreds in a forgotten pocket once he’d finished stashing the information in that encyclopedia brain of his.

John held the paper carefully, smoothed the creases flat with his fingers as he considered the child his youngest son had been. Code of the Boys, it read. John smiled a little. Made sense. Everyone who had ever really mattered to Sammy was a boy—Dean, his old man, Pastor Jim, Bobby—so clearly there had to be rules to govern the way they acted.

And rule number one was "Always hate girls." That made sense, too. Women were sacrosanct in Sammy’s eyes, but girls sucked. They were his only competition for Dean’s attention, and they didn’t bring anything to the mix as far as he could tell. He told John as much once: said girls shouldn’t have even been invented. He was five at the time, and Dean was watching a girl instead of listening to whatever Sammy wanted to tell him.

It wasn’t until he was twelve or thirteen that Sam started to realize girls didn’t suck so much as they just confused the hell out of him. Poor kid. He’d never had Dean’s easy charm with the ladies, and he’d never recognized his own ability to lock a woman’s heart down for the duration with that sweet smile of his, and the way he blushed to the bone whenever one of them smiled back.

So "always hate girls" identified the code’s author beyond much question. And it also made the timeframe in which it had been put to paper more or less inarguable. Fourth grade, by John’s count. Leah Kinnesaul. That girl jerked poor Sammy around like a marionette on a string. Tall, skinny thing. Freckles and a rat’s nest of red hair that defied the laws of gravity. She beat Sam up as often as not. Must have had a hell of a crush on him to go to that much trouble; but smart as Sam was, even at that age, it never occurred to him the girl might just be trying to get his attention.

He thought she hated him. For absolutely no good reason he could fathom, she just started hating him one day. Punching him on the bus when she passed. Kicking him on the playground at recess. Pushing him in the lunchroom, or tripping him in the hallway so he fell in a humiliating sprawl of arms and legs and books.

It took John a while to figure out what was going on. At first, he thought the bruises were from Dean: instances where Sammy’s unpredictable bursts of speed or awkward agility caught his brother far enough off guard he didn’t get a punch fully pulled, or he held on a little tighter than he should have to keep Sam from wriggling out of a shoulder lock.

The boys played rough, and John encouraged that. It was good training for them and an excellent form of exercise for a bookworm who’d rather read about sports than play them. But beyond that, the physical contact forged a bond between the boys. They spent too much time together to always get along, and a little rough-and-tumble helped them sort things out before they turned into something more than they needed to be.

And the competition kept them close even as it made Sam work harder to keep up than he would have otherwise been willing to work. He bitched and moaned, without fail, about virtually every training exercise John ever devised. But he wrestled with his brother for fun, and worked harder to keep Dean from pinning him than he would ever work to keep his ass from getting eaten alive by a wendigo.

And Dean was unfailingly careful. In the long run, Sammy would have a good four inches on him, but when they were that age, Dean was solid muscle and Sam was more pudge than anything else. But even so, Dean made their wrestling matches and bitch-slap fights seem like something he only dominated in the end, and after significant effort. He never let Sam think he was out of the running from the get-go; worked hard not to look like he could take Sammy down without breaking a sweat. And even though the occasional bruise or scrape was bound to happen, Dean was always careful to make sure the only thing that got pinched with any regularity or severity was Sam’s ego. Maybe his dignity, now and again. Certainly his pride. But not more than that.

So after the third unexplained bruise, John started pushing for answers. Sammy mumbled vague excuses, and Dean didn’t offer anything at all.

He figured out it was a girl by the fact that it didn’t stop. If it had been another boy, Dean would have broken the little bastard in half for even touching Sammy, let alone marking him. If it had been Dean, it wouldn’t have happened more than once in a blue moon. The fact that three bruises and a scraped elbow showed up in less than a week and a half meant it had to be a girl. Dean wouldn’t humiliate his brother by protecting him from a girl. And Sam would rather eat his own tongue than hit a girl himself.

Someday, that over-developed sense of chivalry was going to fuck the boy over if he didn’t outgrow it. He must have inherited that from Mary because he sure as hell didn’t get it from John. Or from Dean, who was about a chivalrous as a moose in heat, and half as subtle. But somewhere along the line, Sammy got the idea that you didn’t hit girls, even if they hit you first. And you didn’t say things around them that indicated your interest might be anything other than just being friends. And you sure as hell didn’t "ogle their hooters," as his brother liked to put it.

John had assumed Sam would eventually outgrow those idealized fantasies, but so far, he hadn’t. He was still shy as a virgin around girls. Hell, he probably still was a virgin.

John winced mentally. Mary would hate him for thinking about their son’s lack of sexualized indiscretions with the kind of derision he’d just indulged. Well, maybe not hate him, but read him the riot act at least. Tell him that was a hell of a way for a father to be when it came to sex and his own kids.

But as appalled as Mary might be with his thinking on the matter, it was still the way he tended to view it, especially when it came to boys … his or any other. Mary had her own fanciful notions when it came to sex, but she was a girl, so that was to be expected. He’d be surprised if she wasn’t appalled to find Dean had been getting laid on a regular basis from the time he was fifteen. Sixteen, tops. Or that John had dipped his own stick in the well at a much earlier age than that.

Callie Steinum was her name. He’d been thirteen going on thirty. She was seventeen and had been blowing boys behind the school since she was in seventh grade.

He wondered now if there wasn’t a darker reason for her being the way she was than just being an early starter; but at the time, he didn’t really give a shit. He just wanted to get on with it. Become a man. And Callie was up for the task. Or down on it, as the case might more accurately be termed. She blew him, and he fucked her, and they called it a date. He never spoke to her again.

It wasn’t an optimum situation, but that’s how it happened. And it happened that way a lot. Until he met Mary, sex wasn’t about love for him. It really wasn’t about anything other than getting laid. And maybe about being a man.

Or about feeling like one, at least.

And he didn’t want that for Sam, so he didn't know why he was so condemning of the way Sam still square danced like a schoolboy around the fairer sex, but he was. And he knew he was. He’d tried not to show it, but he knew he did by the way Dean dogged his little brother about being a virgin, about never getting any, about not being much of a man if he couldn’t close a deal Sammy wasn’t looking to close in the first place.

John never said a word on the subject, but he didn’t have to. Sam was smart enough to pick up on why Dean rode him so hard about it, to figure out how much Dean was just trying to protect him from the eventuality of their father thinking him somehow less a man for not being the way the two of them were: the way he was, the way Dean was.

For being more the way Mary had been. For having a sense of himself that was strong enough he didn’t need to supplement it by tapping anything that would give him the time of day just to prove to himself he was a man.

Or to prove it to anybody else.

Because, virgin or not, Sam was a man. He was man enough to tell his old man to fuck off, man enough to strike out on his own and to hell with the consequences. In that way, he was exactly the man John had been at his age, and even younger.

In that way, he was undeniably his father’s son.

John ran his thumb across smudged letters written in a child’s hand, read the second point in Code of the Boys: "Like video games."

That was vintage Sammy. Dean didn’t need to make lists of the things he liked, the things he hated. He just did it. Liked them. Hated them. But Sammy had to quantify everything. He made a list once of everything John had ever done that made him a bad father. It was a testament to Dean’s clandestine skills that the list showed up in a trash can, torn into small pieces, rather than on his pillow where it had no doubt originally been left.

Of all thirty-seven points Sam qualified to the list, he remembered number thirty-seven the most clearly. "You don’t even love your own son," had been that particular bitch. Not sons. Son. Number twenty-six was "You never listen to me." Number twelve had been "You’re never around when I need you." Number one was "You don’t care whether we want to move again or not because everything is always about you, and you never even think about what anyone wants except you."

He taped that list back together and kept it. Some day, when he was long dead and gone, Sam would find it in one of the back pockets of his journal, along with a response he wrote after he’d sucked down four fifths of a fifth of Irish whiskey: a note trying to answer each of those thirty-seven points, a note telling Sammy he did love him, and even though he knew he’d made mistakes, he’d always done the best he could.

He almost tore that note into as many pieces as Dean tore Sammy’s note into once he sobered up; but at the last moment, he decided to let it stand the way he’d written it. To let the drunk he’d fallen to tell his son things the boy would never hear any other way because he never listened to John. And because, as much as Sammy quantified everything, John quantified nothing. It was the way he was; the way he’d always been.

The third point in the Code of the Boys was "Read comics." Not like comics. Not enjoy comics. Just read them. Find common ground with his brother. Figure out a way to connect with Dean on Dean’s own turf.

That was vintage Sammy, too.

Read comics so he could be like Dean, even if he wasn’t.

The fourth point was "Don’t brag." John smiled again, considered the way this particular point fell dead center of the whole list, the same distance from the top as it was from the bottom. If it was Dean, that wouldn’t matter. But it was Sammy. And with Sammy, everything mattered. Where this point fell was a statement. It was the center of his whole idea of what the Code of the Boys was: don’t brag. Be like Dean, even if you aren’t. But don’t be Dean.

Don’t brag.

Number five was "Eat candy." It was a good follow up to an admonishment not to be his brother. Don’t be Dean; be Sam.

And Sam was candy. The kid had the sweet tooth from hell. The year gummy worms came out, they’d almost gone broke in service of his habit.

Dean loved food. All food. Any food.

Sam only loved candy.

But he did love candy. Any kind of candy. All kinds of candy.

Eat candy.

Be Sam.

The sixth point was as much about Dean as the two previous ones had been. "Don’t be a cry baby." It was Dean’s mantra, and he’d drilled it into Sammy’s head for years before it even started to take hold.

When Sam was four, he cried at the drop of a hat. By the time he was seven, he understood crying was a sign of weakness in Dean’s eyes, so he cried at the drop of a hat even while he was telling Dean that didn’t make him a crybaby.

By the time he was nine—by the time he was in fourth grade, by the time he hated girls and liked video games, by the time he wanted to be like Dean without being Dean—he would cry at the drop of a hat in front of anyone but Dean, but he wouldn’t cry in front of Dean to save his life.

Any more than Dean would cry in front of John.

The last point was the one Sam no doubt considered the most important. Most kids put their big guns first; Sam always saved his best for last. You don’t care whether we want to move again or not because everything is always about you and you never even think about what anyone wants except you was first. You don’t even love your own son had been last.

And Sam’s last point in the Code of the Boys was this: "Be strong."

Simple. Clear. Quintessential. Not "Be brave." Not "Be good," or "Be heroic," or "Be wise" or even "Be smart."

Just "Be strong."

You can’t order me around any more, Dad. This is my life, and I’m going to do what I want to do with it. You can’t stop me from going. You can try, but you aren’t strong enough to bully me any more, and I’ll kick your ass to prove it if I have to.

Be strong.

Stand up.

Be counted.

Be Sam.

Be strong.

John studied the note in his hand for several more seconds before he folded it up, slipped it into the back of his journal along with a scotch-taped list of his failings in Sammy’s eyes and a barely legible note trying to excuse those failings as things he hadn’t been strong enough to stand against when it counted. He closed the journal, banded it and set it aside.

When he stood, Dean glanced up from the comic book he was reading. The graphic novel. Whatever. His eyes were cautious, wary. He knew a storm was coming, and he was right in the middle of it, caught between the fury of two men who had never learned to pull their punches either to protect those they loved or make the fight look equal when it wasn’t.

"Where you going?" Dean asked.

John shook the question off. He walked out of the room and out of the house, stood in the cool night air and stared off into the distance in the direction of California.

Stanford University. Any other father would be proud. Any other father would have told his son what a fine man he’d become, shook his hand and sent him out to find the life he wanted to live.

The life he deserved to live.

The life Sam Winchester was never going to be allowed to live by things that wanted to control him in ways his father never had.

The near-silent pad of Dean’s feet behind him reminded John of a thousand times his kid had crept down a hallway in the dark, trying to be there for a man who lived his life by hiding the things that hurt too much to show. "You okay?" Dean asked after several seconds of not being acknowledged.

If you want to go with him, then go, he’d said.

Dean had looked at him, met his eyes when he asked, Are you telling me to go?

Number twenty-six: You never listen to me.

I won’t stop you, he’d raged at Dean, more angry than he’d ever been in his life. More frightened. Closer to the edge of coming apart than he’d been since he looked up and saw Mary bleeding on the ceiling of Sammy’s nursery. I’ve never tried to stop you. This has always been your choice, Dean. Stay or leave; it’s up to you.

Number one: You don’t care whether we want to move again or not because everything is always about you, and you never even think about what anyone wants except you.

Dean’s lip had twitched to a one-cornered smile. Nothing is ever my choice, Dad, he’d said quietly.

Don’t be a crybaby.

Fine, John had snarled back at him. Get the fuck out then. I don’t need you either, Dean. You think I do, but I don’t.

Number thirty-six on Sammy’s list of reasons John Winchester was a shitty dad : You take everything out on Dean. You make him feel like crap all the time. You never tell him you’re proud of him, or that you love him, or that he did a good job or anything. You just yell at him, especially when you’re mad at me.

Sam was thirteen when he wrote that.

John proved himself a man by fucking a girl he never spoke to again. Sam wrote a list for his dad … a list his brother tore into little pieces in hopes of keeping a punch that wasn’t pulled from ever landing.

"Dad?" Dean prompted.

John turned, met his son’s eyes. "There’s some kind of predator hunting the rail yards outside Omaha," he said. "Might be a werewolf. Could be something else. Killed a couple of transients last week. Tore them up bad enough to make the front page without paying taxes, so I’m thinking there are probably more who’ve gone missing or showed up cold without meeting the gore requirements to play to ratings on the evening news. I’ll be heading out in the morning."

He left the rest unsaid. Dean nodded, hearing it anyway.

"I can handle it alone," John added, his voice tight in his throat, hurting with how hard it was to say something he didn’t want to say. "Isn’t outside my range if you have something else you need to do."

Dean didn’t even blink. "Sounds like fun," he said. "Count me in."

John nodded. He brushed past Dean, headed back inside. When they were back to back where he didn’t have to face his son when he said it, he added, "Wasn’t fair of me to take it out on you. I’m sorry if I … if I said anything to make you feel like I don’t appreciate you sticking around. I do. I know there are other things you could be doing. Other things you’d probably rather be doing."

"I’m not Sammy, Dad," Dean said. "I chose this when I was sixteen. I’m here because I want to be here."

Be strong.

"Make sure that's the reason," John said. "You’re no good to me if I have to wonder where your head’s at. I’d rather have a partner I can trust than a kid who’s only staying because he feels he has to."

Dean didn’t answer that. He didn’t say anything at all. He wanted to think he was the partner, but he knew his dad was telling him he was the kid.

"The keys are in the Impala," John told him. "She’s yours, if you want her. I bought a truck yesterday. It’s better suited to what I’m doing, anyway. More the kind of thing I should be driving now that you boys are old enough I don’t have to drag you around in the back seat any more."

When he walked inside, he closed the door behind him. Locked it.

He heard the Impala start up and drive away; felt the world crack around him as the roar of its powerful engine faded into the distance.

John spent the night in the living room, sitting in the dark, listening to his own heartbeat and waiting for it to stop. The Impala pulled back into the driveway as the sun broke over the horizon in the East. Dean unlocked the front door without knocking, walked in and tossed the keys on the table as he passed.

When he came out of his room again, he was carrying a duffel of clothes. "You driving, or am I?" he asked.

John stood. He stretched the kinks out of his back and legs before picking up the keys, dropping them back in his pocket where they’d been before he surrendered them.

"I am," he said.

It took five minutes to pack his own duffel. Dean was waiting for him in the driveway, leaning up against the Impala, drinking coffee out of a styrofoam cup he’d picked up at a local quick mart. There was a matching cup on the Impala’s hood. It breathed steam into the cool morning air as they waited.

John opened the trunk, stowed his duffel inside, then caught the one Dean tossed him and stowed it, too. He slammed the trunk, picked up the coffee and took a couple deep draws before observing, "Tastes like shit."

"Beggars can’t be choosers." Dean glanced at the empty street, then asked, "So where’s this fancy truck of yours?"

"I’ll pick it up when we get back," John said.

Dean grunted. "Then I guess you’re not driving."

John lifted an eyebrow. He studied Dean for a long moment, saying nothing.

"My ride, my choice," Dean said. He held his hand out for the keys. John waited a moment longer, then passed them over. "And my music," Dean added with a grin.

"Don’t push it," John advised as he dropped into the Impala’s passenger seat and pulled the door shut behind him.

Dean slipped behind the wheel, kicked the car to life. He revved the engine a little and smiled at the smooth growl of power that replied. "Sweeeeeeet," he said more to himself than to John.

"You driving or you jerking off?" John asked.

Dean shifted the Impala into gear and backed out of the driveway. "I can do both," he said.

"More than I really needed to know."

"Then don’t ask next time." Dean reached into a box on the seat beside him, pulled out a tape and held it up. "Metallica?"

"No."

He tossed the tape back in the box and pulled out another. "Kansas?"

"You have any Eagles?"

"Hell, yeah." Dean dug around in the box for a moment, then pulled a tape out and popped it into the stereo.

"At a level that doesn’t make my ears bleed," John said when the stereo came on loud enough to wake all the neighbors and most of the dead.

"Dude." Dean reached out to turn the volume down. "When did you get so old?"

"About the time you started driving my car."

Dean flicked him a grin. "My car," he corrected.

"Yeah," John agreed quietly. "Your car." He leaned back, rested his head against the seat and closed his eyes. He listened to the Impala’s engine dig in, get down to business. Don Henley was singing about wasted time, and his son was humming to the tune under his breath. When they hit the highway, Dean opened her up, didn’t level her off until she hit eighty.

"Thank you," John said, his eyes still closed as he listened to the road passing beneath them.

He could feel the weight of Dean’s gaze when it shifted to him, feel the way his son was watching him, trying to find the right answer, trying to find the right words. "For not playing Metallica?" he asked finally.

"Yeah," John agreed. "For that."

"Sure. No problem."

"If you change your mind, it’s your car," John added.

"I know that."

John nodded. "Wake me when we hit the state line. Or when you’re ready to switch drivers, whichever comes first."

"State line," Dean assured him.

"I figured as much. But either way."

"Thanks for the car," Dean said suddenly.

John opened one eye. "Always intended for it to be yours," he said. "Somewhere along the line, I just forgot to tell you that."

"Told me now," Dean said quietly.

John closed his eye again. "Needed the tax write-off," he said.

Dean snorted. They settled to a companionable silence. Time passed. It had been nearly an hour when John opened his eyes again, watched his son drive the car he’d loved since before he could walk. Dean’s attention was focused on the road ahead. His lips were curled with satisfaction as he hummed to himself and tapped one thumb to the beat of music playing so low it barely cleared the grumbling roar of the Impala’s engine.

It was Kansas now, instead of the Eagles. John reached out, turned the song up a little. Dean grinned, but kept his eyes on the road.

 

-finis-


 


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girlfan1979
girlfan1979
girlfan1979
Mon, Sep. 3rd, 2007 09:46 pm (UTC)

Wow. That was a very powerful piece of writing.

[info]longhairedlady keeps recommending found fic to me, but every time I look at the challenges I'm like, huh? What do I say about that? I'll check next week.

And every time I see a fic I'm impressed, at the very least, because it clearly meant something to the other author.

At times like this, though, I'm completely blown away. I mean, this is like, reading, it, "ZOMG that's exactly what that prompt was for!" like this was the sculpture hidden in the marble. Amazingly done.

And as a sort of homage or follow up or whatever you might call it to Sam's emotions, Dean's observations in Rock, Paper, Scissors, yeah - you carried off the brutal hurt of that fic perfectly.


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 06:36 am (UTC)

Thanks so much. I love the complexity of the way Sam portrays his father in the pilot as compared to the John we come to know later, both through Dean and through John himself. Ficwriter really tapped on that bitterness through the eyes of a child who considers themselves somehow cheated of their childhood in Rock, Paper, Scissors, and it really made me want to put to a story how John might have perceived those same choices, not only in terms of how he might feel he did fail Sammy in some ways, but also in terms of how much goes on between John and Dean that Sam doesn't see, but Dean does. But how Sam's failure to see those things might prompt an insecurity in John that things he takes for granted that Dean understands (and rightfully so) might be perceived by Dean the same way they are by Sam. I can imagine that worrying about something like that might make John a little nuts, thinking, surely Dean gets that ...

But not being absolutely sure. And not quite knowing how to go about fixing it if Sammy's "You never tell Dean you love him or are proud of him or anything!" is accurate to the way Dean feels, too.


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ewanmax
ewanmax
ewanmax
Mon, Sep. 3rd, 2007 09:56 pm (UTC)
Code of the Boys

You always break my heart, for Sam, for John and mostly for Dean and you always make me love John for loving his sons even when he doesn't have the slightest idea how to show them.
I loved the list, cuz I generally have to make lists and I love Dean for not having to make them and for John for really knowing his sons even if he never remembers to show them.
I miss you when you're not writing these because you do it so well.
I'm gonna put that on my list.
Colleen


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 06:38 am (UTC)
Re: Code of the Boys

Thanks! I love playing conversations like this between John and Dean. And trying to show how much John suffers from some of the choices he makes that he KNOWS are right but that he equally knows his sons will never fully understand ...

That's the complexity that keeps me playing in the SPN sandbox.


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jdsgirlbev
jdsgirlbev
jdsgirlbev
Mon, Sep. 3rd, 2007 10:08 pm (UTC)

Beautiful, powerful and emotionally devastating in places despite how quiet and internal it is. John KNOWS both boys so well.
I love this for the things they DON'T say and do, as much as for the things they do.


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 06:41 am (UTC)

Thanks! This one was a direct over-compensation for what's been driving me up a wall on KR. I needed to write something that required the reader to do all the heavy lifting in terms of why John is doing what he's doing because KR goes so far in the other direction there. So I wanted a lot left unsaid in this one, both verbally and even in John's head.

And, too, to draw some serious parallels between John and Sam, especially in terms of how both of them actually do live by the Code of the Boys, even as adults.


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lily48
lily48
lily48
Mon, Sep. 3rd, 2007 10:51 pm (UTC)

This is so lovely. Beautifully done.
Thanks for sharing!


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 06:42 am (UTC)

Thank ya!


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kellifer_fic
kellifer_fic
kellifer_fic
Mon, Sep. 3rd, 2007 10:55 pm (UTC)

This is awesome...


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 06:44 am (UTC)

Thanks. :D


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gretazreta
gretazreta
Greta
Mon, Sep. 3rd, 2007 10:55 pm (UTC)

Man, this is a great piece of writing.

I liked very much how something so simple (the list/s) became such a signifier for the characters, who Sam is, who Dean is, who John is, and the complex way they fit together. Like an iceberg, with 90% underwater.

I found this really compelling, quiet and deeply moving.


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 06:47 am (UTC)

Thanks so much. I see John, in particular, exactly that way: as an iceberg, 90% unseen and perhaps even more deeply misunderstood, even by those who love him most.


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may7fic
may7fic
May Robinson
Mon, Sep. 3rd, 2007 10:59 pm (UTC)

What a moving story. I loved John's thoughts and then later, his dialogue and interraction with Dean. Their non-verbalized communication with and understanding of each other is just how I see them and you portrayed this beautifully. Poor Sam... feeling as though he can't measure up. As heartbreaking as it was for all of them, I understand his desire to leave. And Dean... always caught in the middle. I don't think he doubted his father's love though - thankfully - and you've shown here how John struggles with showing it but that his love is there and deep all the same.
Thank-you.


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 06:51 am (UTC)

Thanks! I had a lot of fun playing the subtlties of the change of relationship from "kid who feels like he has to be here" to "junior partner" with John and Dean. That's an aspect of their relationship I don't really spend much time on (mostly because I write Dean at a younger age than this), but the ways in which Dean would balance his own autonomy with his devotion and obedience to John once Sam was out of the picture is a source of endless fascination to me.

And I'm completely with you on the idea that, while Sammy may think John never tells Dean he loves him or is proud of him or whatever, I don't think for a moment that Dean feels this way. I think John tells Dean that all the time, Sammy just doesn't understand the language John and Dean share, so he doesn't hear what is passing between them both from John's perspective and from Dean's.


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gwendolyngrace
gwendolyngrace
Killing threads since 2000 CE
Mon, Sep. 3rd, 2007 11:00 pm (UTC)

Awesome.

Just when I think we've found the fic that defines John's relationships with his boys, someone writes another fic that provides just that different lens to shed a new nuance or shade into those relationships.

Well done. I love the idea that Sam deliberately plans the order of his lists, ranking the items with a sort of OCD-ness that we associate with His Geekness.

And the conversation between John and Dean is just perfect.


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 06:54 am (UTC)

Thanks! I had a blast with the conversation between John and Dean. Writing them interating as partners as well as father and son is something I don't do very often, but it's hella fun when I get a chance to play those dynamics.

I got quite a chuckle out of the OCD-ness of Sam's lists. Being OCD myself (as well as a compulsive list-maker), I can't help but notice patterns like this, so I thought "What the hell, I'll bet Sammy'd notice something like that, too ..."

*snerk*


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black_samvara
black_samvara
Black Samvara
Mon, Sep. 3rd, 2007 11:18 pm (UTC)

meep.

They hurt each other so much and yet there is so much to love in who they are and the choices they make.


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 06:58 am (UTC)

Thanks. :D I loved the idea of neither Sam nor John being able to pull their punches to protect those they love, or make the fight seem equal when it isn't. And Dean being the consumate punch-puller to a degree that he's always running around, trying to pull Sam's punches to John and John's punches to Sam because neither of them are the type who can, or will, do it.

Poor Dean, always caught in the middle.

The idea of playing Bobby's "storms comin" line as relevant to John and Sam kind of epitomizes the way I see his role in the family. Hard place to be in, but he's the reason they work.


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killabeez
killabeez
Killa
Mon, Sep. 3rd, 2007 11:28 pm (UTC)

Oh, god, yes.

See, this is why I love this fandom. So many magnificently talented writers, all I have to do is wish for something, and sooner or later, it appears. You seem to be responsible for a disproportionate number of those occurrences...

Thank you so, so much.


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 07:00 am (UTC)

*snerk* Thanks so much. You are awesome for saying this.

And I absolutely agree with the big picture of your comment: SPN in just chock full to the gills with amazing writers. I freakin love this fandom for that exact reason.


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saberivojo
saberivojo
saberivojo
Mon, Sep. 3rd, 2007 11:40 pm (UTC)

I love it all.

The way that John and Dean both equate sex with manliness, but that Sam's telling Dad to fuck off is exactly the type of man that John is. And that John is the one who recognize this.

I love that not only does John know who wrote the list, but when it was written. That he actually takes a second or two to rewind his memories. Before this...after this.

I love the ending too, with John deferring to Dean, but not totally. Yeah, it is your car kid, but I am still the dad. I can hear that in my head, courtesy of previous Dodger fics. I love the beginings of comraderie between Dean and John - a little more of a partner in the relationship with Dean. The companionable banter, with just the tiniest hint of censure. Lovely.

It is exactly this type of complexity that makes the Winchester father/son dynamic so engaging and fun to read.


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 07:10 am (UTC)

Thank ya. After writing Prodigal Son and exploring the relationship John had with Duquette, I found a great resonance to the idea that Duquette did everything he could, up to and including trying to bully John into not enlisting in the Marines to protect him from making a catastrophic choice that held the potential to destroy his life, if not outright kill him. And that no matter how hard Duquette tried to protect John from himself, he just couldn't do it. John was going to Nam no matter WHAT Duquette did, and what a failure Duquette must have felt to not be able to control his 17/18 year old enough to keep him from doing something so catastrophically self destructive.

And I loved giving John an awareness of how Duquette must have felt when John went to Nam with a "fuck you, I'm never coming back!" stance in the way Sam's leave to Stanford played, especially in the context of John feeling like Sam leaving the protection of the family was as much a catastrophically self-destructive choice as his leaving for Nam had been. And that, because of the way he is, and because of the way Sam is, and because of the relationship they have, the amount he loves his son doesn't change anything. He can't protect Sam from himself any more than Duquette could protect John from himself. And I loved playing the subtext of John feeling this weight of failure to protect the son he loves from making the wrong choice the same way Duquette must have felt it with him ... all without ever mentioning Duquette's name, of course. :D

But this one, in many ways, is a bit of a sequel to Prodigal Son just in how much I was deliberately playing John as Duquette here, and Sam as John.

But, too, a huge part of my impetus in writing this one had to do with observing the moment of change from son to partner with John and Dean. And although I never intended to revisit "When You Go," the things said in that ficlet have always called to me in the idea that John would have to, at some point, deal with the fact that Dean is right: Nothing ever HAS been his choice. So putting John in a position of giving Dean the power, means and motivation to leave him when he so needs Dean to stay was at the core of what I wanted to do with this story. As well as to see how Dean's return after leaving was the return of a partner, not the return of the obligated son who left. But that Dean didn't necessarily make that clear all at once. More of a slow reveal, with John accepting the change in incriments as well.

Got your awesome pressy today, BTW. You so rock. That is the BEST freakin pic I think I've ever seen of him. It is interfering with my ability to do what I'm supposed to be doing rather than sit there and chuckle at the "just woke up" look. Thanks SO much.


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kimmer1227
kimmer1227
Kimmer
Mon, Sep. 3rd, 2007 11:52 pm (UTC)
Wow!

That was amazing. You're one of the few who really capture the Winchesters', in all their beauty and ugliness.

It sure would be great if Sam found that list. :)


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 07:15 am (UTC)
Re: Wow!

Thanks! I love the complexity of all the Winchesters, and the depth of love that exists in the bonds between them, even when they are tearing each other apart by failing to pull the punches they need to pull.

There's a part of me that really grok's John's thinking on putting that note in his journal, KNOWING it will be Sammy who finds it one day, and doing it the way he does because he and Sammy are never going to fail to fight on the subjects covered in that note, so they only way he can really say what he wants to say to Sam without getting derailed into banging heads just to bang heads is to put it in a note that Sam will never know exists until he's dead and gone.

John's an ace at getting in the last word in that regard. And I think that's probably the only way he'd ever get it with Sammy.


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dotfic
dotfic
sometimes you need a story
Mon, Sep. 3rd, 2007 11:57 pm (UTC)

Terrific character portraits. I loved that John saved Sam's list, wrote a response, kept it tucked in the journal and didn't give it to him. The John and Dean dynamic here is also wonderful.


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 07:19 am (UTC)

Thanks! There's almost a secret empowerment to knowing you've responded to someone's criticism of you, but doing it in a way they won't ever know about until you're no longer around to be argued with about it. I can almost see that being a sense of satisfaction for John inthat he KNOWS Sam will eventually read his thinking on why he did what he did, and as along as Sam eventually hears why he made the choices he felt he had to make, he feels like he's done everything he can do to heal the damage between them. But yet, being John, he's holding that healing back for a time when Sam won't be able to re-open new wounds between them.

Sometimes I love the fucked up way John thinks. :D


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dolimir_k
dolimir_k
Dolimir
Mon, Sep. 3rd, 2007 11:58 pm (UTC)

I've missed you!

So glad to see you're back.

Absolutely lovely piece.


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 07:21 am (UTC)

Thanks. :D I've been writing myself dizzy, just not on Supernatural. I do have a much longer John piece that I keep ripping apart everytime I get it sewed back together again. Sooner or later, I'm going to be happy enough with it to post. At least, I hope so any way.


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tabaqui
tabaqui
tabaqui
Tue, Sep. 4th, 2007 12:04 am (UTC)

Oh, John. Why you gotta be so hard? Your boys love you so much, and you're so damn afraid...
*hugs him*

Lovely, lovely stuff. I like each bit of thought and reflection with each 'point' of the code. and then we get the John'n'Dean go-round and oh...boys.
*sniffle*


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 07:25 am (UTC)

Thanks. I think I hit my quitisential definition of who John is in this piece with "As much as Sammy quantified everything, John quantified nothing. It was the way he was; the way he’d always been."

On a very fundamental level, that mindset is applicable to everything I write about John.


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riverbella
riverbella
Diagonally Parked in a Parallel Universe
Tue, Sep. 4th, 2007 01:57 am (UTC)

I'm impressed. This prompt just went up Friday and you have already posted this fairly long and utterly amazing piece of fic. Taken something as simple as a little boy's list and turned it into a soliloquy on sons and love and fear and failure and doing the best you can when you're only human. Maybe as insightful a look into the mind and heart of John Winchester as I've encountered. And the insights into Sam and Dean through the filter of their father's thoughts and their interactions with him are equally rich and textured. Beautiful work.


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 07:31 am (UTC)

Thanks so much. This prompt hit me on a very core level, and as my journal header likely makes clear, my love for John is very much predicated in how much he understands and accepts his own failures, but even being flawed and knowing as much, he can still say he's always done the best he could.

That's all any man can ever say, I think. And I feel like it's the key to the heart and soul of who John is both as a man, and as a father.

And watching him try to negotiate painful and damaging waters with his sons is always the journey of Supernatural that fascinates me. I love all three of these men, and love how much they love each other, even as they damage each other in how they do and do not express that love.

Just like real people. And real families.

Thanks again for such an awesome comment. You made my day (night?) with the soliloquy line.


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mlina
mlina
liquid poetry ♥
Tue, Sep. 4th, 2007 02:05 am (UTC)

Stuffing this in my memories because it's far too good not to read all over again. I love the characterization for each of them. Brilliant work. :)


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 07:34 am (UTC)

Thanks! I found it almost hard to quantify this one (if I were prone to quanitfying everything the way Sam is *snerk*) just because it is so focused on Sam in so many ways, yet Sam doesn't ever actually appear in it. That was an interesting way to play the characters ... almost an attempt to replicate how dominating John's presence is in S2 of the show even though he never actually appears in any but the first and last episodes. But the presence of who he is dominates the dynamics of this family, just as Sam, in some ways, defines the dynamic between John and Dean here.


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sinoftheday
sinoftheday
Riding the Ice Dragon
Tue, Sep. 4th, 2007 02:46 am (UTC)

I always keep an eye out for fic by you and you always make my heart ache. I love how you can point out John's shortcoming, but still make me feel how much he loves his boys even if he hasn't a clue on how to show it

I do love the last exchange between John and Dean; they can talk about cars or music and say so much.

Thanks for sharing.


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 07:38 am (UTC)

Thanks. :D Everything I love about John is in his failures and how hard he tries. Dean's line in Bloodlust is quitisential to me in defining John: "He took some horrible beatings, but he just kept going. I thought he was indestructibe."

John kind of typifies the idea that strength of character isn't defined by the capacity to succeed so much as it is by the capacity to simply endure. To keep getting up every time you get knocked down. To never give up, never surrender (to quote GalaxyQuest in a totally inappropriate context). But still, I think that's John in a nutshell. He wasn't the most perfect guy or the most heroic. He was just the one you couldn't beat badly enough to keep him down.

And I love that about John beyond all reason.


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jorma_duran
jorma_duran
jorma_duran
Tue, Sep. 4th, 2007 02:49 am (UTC)

You know, I think one of the many reasons why I love your writing so much is this: you so descriptively lay out the pain, hurt, and regret and yet leave me with the sense that it's going to be alright in spite of all that.

Really great! Thank you so much for sharing.


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 07:41 am (UTC)

Thanks! I kind of feel that way about the show itself. The Winchesters have led such tragic lives and lost so much, yet there is so much hope in their capacity to continue to love each other and try to save the world, even as the world is kicking their ass every time they turn around.

Like Sammy says in the angel episode: Hope is the whole point.

And I believe that, both in writing and in life.


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caithream
caithream
IT'S LIKE WEEPY
Tue, Sep. 4th, 2007 03:10 am (UTC)

Oh. Ohh. This hurts so good. The characterization? Absolutely perfect, and then some. Wonderful.


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 07:44 am (UTC)

Thanks so much. People always look at me a little funny when I tell them at what moment I fell in love with John Winchester, but it is very much reflected in this fic. I fell in love with John in Dead Man's Blood when he told Dean "If I knew you were going to ruin it, I wouldn't have ever given the damn car to you." Everything I love about John as a man, and John and Dean as a father and son relationship, came together in that single line of dialog -- both in the line itself, and in the way both Jeff and Jen played it. And the John in this fic is exactly the man I fell in love with in that moment in that show ... and have been in love with every since.


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iamstealthyone
iamstealthyone
iamstealthyone
Tue, Sep. 4th, 2007 03:21 am (UTC)

Good look at the Winchester family dynamics, particularly relating to John and Sam. I like all the different character insights you gave them, as well as the way you showed Dean and John relating at story’s end.

Favorite lines:

Even if he hadn’t recognized the handwriting, with its very specific cursive elements and large, curly-Qed "C",

Good details.

He told John as much once: said girls shouldn’t have even been invented.

LOL!

Tall, skinny thing. Freckles and a rat’s nest of red hair that defied the laws of gravity.

Good description.

Or from Dean, who was about a chivalrous as a moose in heat, and half as subtle.

ROTFLOL!

And you sure as hell didn’t "ogle their hooters," as his brother liked to put it.

LOL!

a note trying to answer each of those thirty-seven points, a note telling Sammy he did love him, and even though he knew he’d made mistakes, he’d always done the best he could.

Oh, John.

The life Sam Winchester was never going to be allowed to live by things that wanted to control him in ways his father never had.

Ooh, I love how you phrased this, how it points toward John knowing about Sam’s precarious future.

Number thirty-six on Sammy’s list of reasons John Winchester was a shitty dad : You take everything out on Dean. You make him feel like crap all the time. You never tell him you’re proud of him, or that you love him, or that he did a good job or anything. You just yell at him, especially when you’re mad at me.

Sam was thirteen when he wrote that.


Ow, ow, ow.

"Sweeeeeeet," he said more to himself than to John.

"You driving or you jerking off?" John asked.


LOL!

Dean shifted the Impala into gear and backed out of the driveway. "I can do both," he said.

"More than I really needed to know."


ROTFLOL!

It was Kansas now, instead of the Eagles. John reached out, turned the song up a little. Dean grinned, but kept his eyes on the road.

Great ending; I really like the companionable feel here.


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 07:52 am (UTC)

Thanks, as always, for the great and detailed feedback. You rock.

That moose line about Dean's chivalry is one of my favorite lines ever from my own work. I giggled about that one for quite a while. The "Number thirty-six on Sammy's list of reasons John Winchester was a shitty dad ..." passage is the heart of this story for me. It drives every other action in the story ... the idea this accusation from Sammy might have haunted John with the possibility he was right, even though John feels like Sammy's full of shit and Dean knows exactly how he feels about him and always has. But so much of the John and Dean interaction in this story is a direct response from John to the possibility that maybe he hasn't made it clear to Dean that he loves him and is proud of him. But that even fearing he might not have made that clear, John still isn't the type of guy who can really just come out and say "Hey, in case I never said it before, love you, proud of you. Nuff said." Would that he could, but he can't.

The "you driving or you jerking off?" is the encapsulation of John and Dean interacting as partners, friends, equals, and an adult father-and-son team. This, for me, was the Sam-and-Dean companionship moment for John and Dean ... something I feel they must have experienced while Sam was off at Stanford to create some of the dynamics between John and Dean that we see manifest in later episodes when John finally does show up in S1.

Thanks again for the great feedback!


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kimonkey7
kimonkey7
love makes the little thickness of the coin
Tue, Sep. 4th, 2007 03:32 am (UTC)

This is really lovely.

I adore your insights into Sam, here. Especially from John's POV. And the later interactions with Dean and John are so heartbreaking for BOTH men.

Really, really fantastic.

Thanks so much for playing! Welcome to the game! :)


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 07:54 am (UTC)

Thanks so much for the awesome prompt! I saw that note and though "that's Sammy, and John found it after Sam left for Stanford." I love prompts that are that emotionally complex and deep in what they bring to mind at first glance. I would have never written this story (or anything like it) without the awesome prompt you put in your very cool challenge comm.

So thank YOU so much for running such an excellent comm. I'm looking forward to future prompts.


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amothea
amothea
Amalthia
Tue, Sep. 4th, 2007 03:41 am (UTC)

this was beautiful and I just loved that John knows both his sons so well.


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 07:57 am (UTC)

Thanks! I tend to think John knows Sammy, in particular, MUCH better than the way he deals with him shows. The two of them are so much alike that I think John really understands him at the same time as he's frustrated all to hell and back by the fact that as much as he understands Sam, Sam doesn't seem to understand him at ALL. And their similarity of personality puts them to butting heads for no reason but butting heads ... something John simply isn't effective at avoiding even though, understanding Sam the way he does, he SHOULD be.


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leelust
leelust
leelust
Tue, Sep. 4th, 2007 04:27 am (UTC)

Oh, man, i so missed you.
I know nothing about prompts but i read that it came from Carol's RPS and it's written by you so i race to read. And i love it. Surprised? I think you don't... *sigh* I'm so easy to read...
John's thoughts and his dialogue with Dean... you know how to get me :) The way they see something not the way Sammy does... and his teenage certainty in his rightness. Even in point #37.
And Dean.. Oh, Dean...
He knew a storm was coming, and he was right in the middle of it, caught between the fury of two men who had never learned to pull their punches either to protect those they loved or make the fight look equal when it wasn’t.
What more can I say?
And special thanx for this:
They spent too much time together to always get along, and a little rough-and-tumble helped them sort things out before they turned into something more than they needed to be.


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 08:02 am (UTC)

Thanks. :D That line about the storm coming, given the way it plays later speaking to the storm of evil that is coming, really defines the way I think Dean must often feel in being caught between the gale force blows of two men he loves equally but who aren't adult enough not to beat each other to a bleed even though they love each other.

There was something very foundational to the way Dean is with Sam that really found a home in this fic. The passage about how careful Dean was, even as a kid, never to let Sam know he was completely outmatched when they were younger, always protecting Sam by pulling his punches even as he's harrassing him and haranging him like he does in the show ... that's the balance of brotherly love I see between Sam and Dean on the show. How much Dean antagonizes his little brother for fun, but still, how hard he works to protect him, and how much he loves him in almost a parental fashion.


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vesuvianite
vesuvianite
Tue, Sep. 4th, 2007 05:44 am (UTC)

That was lovely. You really have a talent for this. There's almost something haunting about your stories. They sink in and stick with you.


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dodger_winslow
dodger_winslow
I'd Sell My Soul for a Blunt Instrument ...
Wed, Sep. 5th, 2007 08:04 am (UTC)

Thanks so much. Haunting is actually one of my favorite adjectives when someone is describing my work. As a writer, the idea that the essences of my work lingers on in the subconscious long after the details of the actual story have faded really appeals.


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